Thursday, September 02, 2010

Who's Kidding Whom Here? (See last quote below)

There is no way peace will be made with the Palestinians. Too many Israelis want it all -- particularly some of the settlers. I guess if one cares, one will try anything. But with all due respects, Netanyahu is the last guy in Israel who will do anything but oppress Palestinians -- 200 picked up in response to the killing of 4?

See the figures following:

Palestinian prisoners in Israel
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Palestinian prisoners in Israel mainly refers to Palestinians imprisoned in Israel following apprehension resulting from the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. There are over 7,000 prisoners (2010). Most prisoners are held after conviction by the Israel Prison Service, which is under the jurisdiction of the Internal Security ministry, while some are administrative detainees. The future of Palestinian prisoners detained by Israel has long been considered central to progress in Israeli-Palestinian peace negotiations.[1]
Contents

* 1 Number of prisoners
o 1.1 Child prisoners
* 2 Imprisoned public figures
o 2.1 Marwan Barghouti
o 2.2 Ahmad Sa'adat
o 2.3 City officials
* 3 Prisoner exchanges and releases
* 4 Accusations of human rights abuses
o 4.1 Physical torture
* 5 Political & social mobilization
o 5.1 'Prison education' programmes
o 5.2 Hunger strikes
o 5.3 Palestinian Prisoners' Document
* 6 See also
* 7 External links
* 8 Notes

Number of prisoners

Between 1967 and 1988, more than 600,000 Palestinians were held in Israeli jails for a week or more, according to the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights.[2] According to the Guardian, approximately one-fifth of the population has at one time been imprisoned since 1967.[3] Those arrested were subject either to trial or administrative detention.[4]

In 1998, the number of Palestinians held in administrative detention began to gradually decline and averaged less than 20 from 1999 to October 2001. However, with the start of the Second Intifada, and particularly after Operation Defensive Shield, the trend was reversed, and the numbers began to steadily climb.[4] According to the Fédération Internationale des ligues des Droits de l'Homme (FIDH), from the beginning of the Second Intifada in 2000 through to April 2003, more than 28,000 Palestinians were incarcerated in prisons or prisoner camps. In April 2003 alone, there were more than 5,500 arrests.[5]

In 2007, the number of Palestinians under administrative detention averaged about 830 per month, including women and minors under the age of 18.[6] By March 2008, more than 8,400 Palestinians were held by Israeli civilian and military authorities, of which 5,148 were serving sentences, 2,167 were facing legal proceedings and 790 were under administrative detention, often without charge or knowledge of the suspicions against them.[7] In 2010, the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics reported that there were "over 7,000" Palestinians in Israeli jails, of them 264 under administrative detention.[8] The main prisons in which Palestinian prisoners apprehended by Israel are held are in the Ofer Prison in the West Bank and the Megiddo and Ketziot prisons in Israel.[7]

On 17 April 2008, the annual day of commemoration for Palestinian Prisoners, Adalah: The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, published a summary report of statistics noting that there were 11,000 Palestinian prisoners being held in prison and detention in Israel, including 98 women, 345 children, 50 members of the Palestinian Legislative Council, and 3 ministers of the Palestinian National Authority.[9] Of these 11,000 Palestinian prisoners, 8,456 were from the West Bank, 762 from the Gaza Strip, 552 from Jerusalem, and 132 from within Israel itself.[9] In October 2008, Haaretz reported that there are 600 Palestinians being held in administrative detention in Israel, including "about 15 minors who do not know even know why they are being detained."[10]
Child prisoners

Between October 2000 and April 2009, approximately 6,700 Palestinian children between the ages of 12 and 18 were arrested by the Israeli authorities, according to Defence for Children International's Palestine Section (DCI/PS). The number of Palestinian children held in detention and interrogation centers, as well as prisons, both in Occupied Palestinian Territory and inside of Israel, was 423 in 2009. In April 2010 the number was 280. DCI/PS reports that these detentions stand in contravention of international law.[11]
[edit] Imprisoned public figures

There are several Palestinian leaders and politicians held in Israeli jails, including 47 Hamas members of the Palestinian Legislative Council, in addition to some ministers and the mayors and municipal council members of various towns and cities in the West Bank.[3]
[edit] Marwan Barghouti
Main article: Marwan Barghouti

Marwan Barghouti a leader of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades militia and al-Mustaqbal political party, was arrested and tried by an Israeli civilian court for attacks carried out by the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades. He was convicted on May 20, 2004 on five counts of murder and sentenced to five life sentences and forty years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_prisoners_in_Israel

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Israeli Peace Effort Rests on Netanyahu
By ETHAN BRONNER
Published: September 1, 2010

JERUSALEM — David Rubinger, one of Israel’s best-known photojournalists and a man firmly on the political left, cast his ballot last year for Benjamin Netanyahu for prime minister, the first time he had ever voted for the right-leaning Likud Party.
Related

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Leaders Call for Peace as Mideast Talks Begin (September 2, 2010)
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Palestinians Hunt the Killers of 4 Israelis (September 2, 2010)

Negotiating With the Israeli Settlers

Will Netanyahu ever be able to bring the settler movement on board in any peace process?

“The left wants to make peace but cannot, while the right doesn’t want to but, if forced to, can do it,” he said in an interview. “So last year I decided to vote not with my heart but with my head.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/02/world/middleeast/02israel.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper

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"A war is just if there is no alternative, and the resort to arms is legitimate if they represent your last hope." (Livy cited by Machiavelli)
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Ed Kent [blind copies]

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